{"id":20434,"date":"2023-09-13T08:36:48","date_gmt":"2023-09-13T06:36:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/?p=20434"},"modified":"2024-02-26T14:34:55","modified_gmt":"2024-02-26T13:34:55","slug":"seven-questions-meet-ferdinand-doumic-baker-and-teacher","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/en\/news\/seven-questions-meet-ferdinand-doumic-baker-and-teacher\/","title":{"rendered":"Seven Questions: Meet Ferdinand Doumic,  Baker and Teacher"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/seven-questions\/\">More seven questions interviews:<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>You\u2019ve been a baker here for over two years, can you introduce yourself to us?<br \/>\n<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I\u2019m Ferdinand (34), I was born in Paris, raised in Angoul\u00eame, a small city between Bordeaux and Cognac in the south of France. Before going into baking I had the luxury to explore many different paths: I studied literature, music and digital project management, one after the other. I spent 6 years in corporate life, working in Paris and then Amsterdam. Then I studied acting with<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.meisnerinternational.com\/\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Steven Ditmyer<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, an American director training actors with the Meisner Technique. This brought me to act in a few plays, performances and movies. It was a very important part of my life, a journey of self-introspection you could say. You would think acting is all about wearing a mask, but it\u2019s actually mostly about dropping all masks.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And then Baking Lab entered my life in 2019. I\u2019m saying Baking Lab and not baking itself because I do many other things here: teaching, experimenting, learning about entrepreneurship, project management to name a few. It\u2019s a place where I can somehow connect the dots with many things I\u2019ve done in the past. Of course, baking, cooking, and working with food is a big part of my job. I love how it opens all of my senses, it forces a tandem between the body and the head. But I\u2019m also glad there is diversity in what I do, it keeps me sane!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-21102\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/10-rye-bread-bakery-interview-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/10-rye-bread-bakery-interview-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/10-rye-bread-bakery-interview-scaled-600x800.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/10-rye-bread-bakery-interview-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/10-rye-bread-bakery-interview-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/10-rye-bread-bakery-interview-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/10-rye-bread-bakery-interview-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><b>The connection to your senses, is that the reason why you decided to become a baker?<br \/>\n<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Partly yes. It started with a simple idea. Five years ago I thought \u201cwhy not make my own bread?\u201d It looked like a magical process from the outside. Something that requires patience, focus, intelligence, but also involves using your hands and all of your senses indeed. I\u2019m someone who needs to experience things with my body, get in touch with it physically to know if I like it or not, so soon enough I started at home and made a few loaves. Then I felt the need to learn more and maybe even become a baker. I emailed a number of bakeries in Amsterdam applying for a job, but most of them were looking for experienced bakers only. Thankfully, Baking Lab invited me to visit. They offered me a volunteering position, and for four months I worked with Elise, the head baker at the time as well as Ruchi, another volunteer who needed a break from her corporate life. The diversity of people, the space where everything is hanging, the crazy projects, all of it seemed so open and creative at Baking Lab. I felt at ease right very quickly. It was a clear sign that something at Baking Lab worked for me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So I stayed, I learned a lot from Elise as a volunteer, until one day I told her I needed to find a job, and preferably as a baker. I said I would love to stay at Baking Lab, but otherwise I would apply to other bakeries now that I had some basic skills. Elise said \u201cIt\u2019s good timing\u201d and now I\u2019ve been working full time at Baking Lab for over two years.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I never really thought I would work in the horeca industry actually. But somehow I can still connect the dots. Once in high school, when I was a music major, a classical music professor told us \u201cjazz music is like cooking, you just put things together and hope it works\u201d. He was rather critical of it, and said it as if it wasn\u2019t a real art form&#8230; But I loved jazz music you know. I loved the improvisation, the freedom in it. You can really get to express yourself and be in the moment. Well now I cook all day, and just like with music I love the improvisational part of it. So maybe he was right in some ways. Though I think he was wrong about it not being an art form, both jazz and cooking.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id='gallery-1' class='gallery galleryid-20434 gallery-columns-3 gallery-size-thumbnail'><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/en\/news\/seven-questions-meet-ferdinand-doumic-baker-and-teacher\/attachment\/8-rye-batard-interview-ferdinand\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/8-rye-batard-interview-ferdinand-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/8-rye-batard-interview-ferdinand-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/8-rye-batard-interview-ferdinand-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/8-rye-batard-interview-ferdinand-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/8-rye-batard-interview-ferdinand-600x598.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/8-rye-batard-interview-ferdinand-1024x1021.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/8-rye-batard-interview-ferdinand-768x766.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/8-rye-batard-interview-ferdinand.jpg 1440w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/en\/news\/seven-questions-meet-ferdinand-doumic-baker-and-teacher\/attachment\/6-rye-bread-interview-ferdinand\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/6-rye-bread-interview-ferdinand-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/6-rye-bread-interview-ferdinand-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/6-rye-bread-interview-ferdinand-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/6-rye-bread-interview-ferdinand-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/6-rye-bread-interview-ferdinand-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/6-rye-bread-interview-ferdinand-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/6-rye-bread-interview-ferdinand-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/6-rye-bread-interview-ferdinand.jpg 1223w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/en\/news\/seven-questions-meet-ferdinand-doumic-baker-and-teacher\/attachment\/5-bread-leaves-interview-ferdinand\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/5-bread-leaves-interview-ferdinand-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/5-bread-leaves-interview-ferdinand-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/5-bread-leaves-interview-ferdinand-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/5-bread-leaves-interview-ferdinand-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/5-bread-leaves-interview-ferdinand-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/5-bread-leaves-interview-ferdinand-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/5-bread-leaves-interview-ferdinand-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/5-bread-leaves-interview-ferdinand.jpg 1045w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div><\/figure>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<p><b>So the creative process is what you like about baking?<br \/>\n<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yes, that\u2019s a big part of it. I\u2019m actually not sure I would like to work in a conventional bakery that focuses exclusively on production. I think I would get bored relatively quickly. At Baking Lab everyone has a great diversity of tasks. Throughout the week I will spend time teaching, designing a workshop, exploring a new bread procedure, coordinating our volunteering team, and finding ways to minimise food waste. It is a challenging environment, routine generally doesn\u2019t last, but also a very rewarding one.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But yeah, am I actually really a bread baker in the traditional sense? I\u2019m not sure. But as long as people like the products we make, that\u2019s fine with me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>How would you describe Baking lab?<br \/>\n<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Baking lab is such a difficult place to describe in words. It\u2019s of course a cafe and bakery. But also a strange ecosystem, with a dynamic of its own. Some people are waiters, teachers, some are punctual workshop participants, some are regular customers to our shop and cafe, and some are volunteers for a few months. You have to be there to experience it.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And even though we are neither a school nor a university, learning<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">is<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">through our workshops and volunteering baking program, a key component of Baking Lab. Jechiam, the founder of the bakery, is an avid learner and a very innovative autodidact. And I think part of his goal is to empower the rest of us to learn by doing, so we can express ourselves through what we do. Obviously, whatever we come up with still has to make sense within the context of the bakery, as well as socially and financially, but we do get that autonomy to take our own path, as long as it\u2019s heading in the right direction.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-21107\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/9-rye-sourdough-interview-ferdinand-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/9-rye-sourdough-interview-ferdinand-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/9-rye-sourdough-interview-ferdinand-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/9-rye-sourdough-interview-ferdinand-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/9-rye-sourdough-interview-ferdinand-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/9-rye-sourdough-interview-ferdinand-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/9-rye-sourdough-interview-ferdinand-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/9-rye-sourdough-interview-ferdinand.jpg 1429w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That being said, having such freedom can be challenging! The French school system, as I experienced it, was very focused on accumulating and regurgitating knowledge. Creativity was a very small part of the equation. One thing I understood here at Baking Lab is that any learning process is a creative process. If you really want to understand something, it cannot be a linear path, you have to take risks and make mistakes first. Baking Lab provides exactly the kind of space where learning takes many different forms and rhythms, so you can eventually really look at a problem from different perspectives. I think there is this myth that when you learn something, you know it and then you can move on to the next thing. Obviously, that\u2019s not how it works. To understand something you have to look at it from different angles, at different times, refine your judgement, try things out, make mistakes, and then maybe you eventually understand something fundamental.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I know that personally, I often understand what went right in a baking process once I\u2019ve understood a lot of the things that can go wrong. And so mistakes are welcome here. I know it is a trend to say that \u201cone learns through mistakes\u201d etc. but Jechiam actually gets excited and lively when mistakes happen. As far as I know, it&#8217;s very rare to find this quality in people. It really changed my attitude. I don\u2019t feel I need to correct mistakes, but rather look at them as an opportunity to learn and maybe even come up with something new.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-21103\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/4-leni-interview-ferdinand-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/4-leni-interview-ferdinand-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/4-leni-interview-ferdinand-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/4-leni-interview-ferdinand-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/4-leni-interview-ferdinand-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/4-leni-interview-ferdinand-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/4-leni-interview-ferdinand-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/4-leni-interview-ferdinand.jpg 1440w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><b>You also give workshops, is that something you are part of?<br \/>\n<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yes, this is a significant part of my week. Part of the learning process is actually to teach what we\u2019ve learned. And I can do that through teaching bread workshops. If I teach something, I\u2019ll need to adapt to my audience, I\u2019ll get questions, and by doing so I&#8217;ll know if I actually understand what I\u2019m talking about.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">At the moment, we have students, artists, musicians, brewers who are all involved in teaching bread workshops at Baking Lab. I think the mix between science, creativity and autonomy draws creative minds to this place. They want to try new things, learn in their own way and teach in their own style. We are all somehow generalists, and we have the best time bridging gaps between disciplines.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You see, it\u2019s hard to describe! I guess the best way to put it would be to say that we\u2019re all teachers and students, at the same time. As students we\u2019re allowed to fail and learn, and as teachers we\u2019re allowed to empower and create. Sounds like a good mix to me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>So Baking Lab is a bakery, cafe and an educational place?<br \/>\n<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yes, but it is also a social place. I wouldn\u2019t call it a community, but it comes close. Almost every week a little story is baked here.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The volunteering program is very special in that sense. Each day, one or two volunteers will come and spend a day baking with me. Bread is what we do with our bodies, but we can be talking about anything. Shaping or mixing is like an anchor in these moments. We can address the deepest, most metaphysical and dramatic subjects, knowing that bread will bring us back to the earth.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And of course, people bring their own culture. We have two wonderful Turkish women as volunteers at the moment, and together we designed a simit recipe (Turkish bagel) that works for the bakery. Another volunteer from Iran showed me a barbari (Persian flat bread) on Instagram, and said \u201cwe need to make this\u201d. After two weeks of tests he said \u201cNow it tastes like a real barbari from Iran!\u201d. There are many other examples and many different profiles: artists, scientists, nurses, psychologists, people coming out of a burn out, retired people. Everyone is coming together in this sort of sanctuary that is Baking Lab, to make this essential staple food that is bread. And I\u2019m lucky to be a part of it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-21104\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/3-sema_interview_ferdinand-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/3-sema_interview_ferdinand-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/3-sema_interview_ferdinand-scaled-600x800.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/3-sema_interview_ferdinand-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/3-sema_interview_ferdinand-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/3-sema_interview_ferdinand-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/3-sema_interview_ferdinand-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><b>What would be the next step for you, after Baking Lab?<br \/>\n<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I see myself living in France or Spain, in the countryside. As a kid I loved playing outside. My jeans always had holes. I would be climbing trees, come back with my hands full of mud, leaves in my hair. Making bread brings back very similar sensations. My hands and jeans are covered with flour, dough is like mud, the heat of the ovens has something exciting and dangerous\u2026 So I think in many ways being a baker is a way back to something very simple I enjoyed as a child. But I also know that the diversity of what I do here is very valuable to me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-21098\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/7-unisg-interview-ferdinand-240x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"240\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/7-unisg-interview-ferdinand-240x300.jpg 240w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/7-unisg-interview-ferdinand-600x750.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/7-unisg-interview-ferdinand-819x1024.jpg 819w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/7-unisg-interview-ferdinand-768x960.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/7-unisg-interview-ferdinand-1229x1536.jpg 1229w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/7-unisg-interview-ferdinand.jpg 1440w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 240px) 100vw, 240px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Maybe I would start my own thing. It could be something similar to Baking Lab, or completely different. Time will tell. Our model here shows that it is possible to blend different disciplines into one place, and still remain coherent. Personal freedom, responsibility, space to explore and learn are some of the core values that I will take with me. Then it\u2019s like a soil. You have to nurture it with water and sunlight, things will start growing, attracting new living organisms, which in turn will attract more species and find some natural balance. That\u2019s a kind of metaphor for what is happening in our micro bakery.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-21105\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/2-yuka_amandine-interview-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/2-yuka_amandine-interview-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/2-yuka_amandine-interview-scaled-600x450.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/2-yuka_amandine-interview-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/2-yuka_amandine-interview-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/2-yuka_amandine-interview-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/2-yuka_amandine-interview-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>#Design thinking #Social innovation #complexity #placemaking<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bakinglab.nl\/en\/sociale-impact\/\">Learn more about us&#8230;.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>More seven questions interviews: You\u2019ve been a baker here for over two years, can you introduce yourself to us? I\u2019m Ferdinand (34), I was born in Paris, raised in Angoul\u00eame, a small city between Bordeaux and Cognac in the south of France. 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